This 1971 bus No 392 New in 1971DTC 740J was seen close to it's home depot at Swinton and lasted twelve-years. I like Seddon RUs so much I own one… The LUT Arab at Greenodd was 166 I believe, it was painted as a Laurel and Hardy Museum bus and is stored at St Helens Transport Museum presently. GMTS is a company limited by guarantee and is registered in England and Wales, number 3169301. The company continued to operate routes in South Lancashire until purchased by Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive in 1976. They lasted until 1960. Very definitely a great tool for us for on the hardest, longest, busiest one man route the 84. It has a Metropolitan Cammell body, to the H73R layout, and was new in 1961. I understand the copy Manchester destination arrangement was the result of a senior manager joining LUT from Manchester sometime in the 1950’s. The 25 and the 13 service to Whitefield were worked by Swinton depots RE,s in the main, both the Plaxton and the Alexander bodied Bristols were always first choice for these routes ( and the 11 and 17 too) their easy steering (in pre power steering made them so) they were just that little bit more nimble on the estate work around Harper Green. David, thanks for confirming that my memory isn’t that faulty, it’s reassuring. Unfamiliar with all the variants on the Orion theme, I don’t know whether this example was significantly lighter than the NCME bodies and therefore chosen to help fuel consumption, as well as for the interesting reason Mike Norris gave: reminding NCME that they weren’t the only fish in the sea! Within ‘our’ industry we can, and do, wax lyrical about the internal aspects of what we do, but it’s the paying passenger who makes it all possible. Lancashire United Transport was formed in 1905 to take over the operations of the South Lancashire Tramway Co. to run trams and later buses in South Lancashire from three bases in Swinton, Hindley and the main head office and works at Howe Bridge, Atherton. Company Information. On Neville’s reasoning, it’s Barton. Registered Office: Museum of Transport, Boyle Street, Manchester M8 8UW. We were regular travellers in the early sixties from Newcastle to Lymm Church, usually in summer. 621 likes. Lancashire United Transport. Log In: Forgot account? Add to these Duple Donnington and NCME bodied Tiger Cubs, Burlingham & Plaxton Derwent AEC Reliances, so waiting for an LUT coach in the 60s was most interesting! 28-35: 121-128MTE: Leyland PSUC1/2: 596127/42/54/ 249-50/76/ 315/05: Northern Counties: C41F: 36-39: 826-829MTD: Dennis Loline: 145-48Y1A: Northern Counties: H40/29R: 40: 531RTB: Guy Arab IV: FD74531: Metro - Cammell: H41/32R: 50-57: 141-148NTF : Guy … logo image Wright Eclipse 2 bodied Volvo B7RLE in Bolton in April 2012 Parent companyTransdev Blazefield FoundedApril 2001 HeadquartersBlackburn Service typeBus services Routes18 (October 2013) HubsBlackburn Fleet97 (October 2013) Chief executiveJohn Threlfall Web sitewww.lancashirebus.co.uk If you find a rear view, you will see the body extension. After Alder Valley was formed, from two opposite sides of the fence, one of which always ploughed its own furrow, which of the two management and maintenance regimes dominated? LUT remained as an independent subsidiary until 1981 when the company was officially wound up and its assets transferred to Greater Manchester Transport. depot. It had extensive bus services in a great swathe of industrial Lancashire between Manchester and Liverpool, but it also had a big coach services and tours business. Competitive salary; Temporary, part-time; Heywood The Best Connection Group Oldham are looking for an experienced and professional LGV Class 2 driver to join … Why did Leyland, Daimler and MCW win the front engined vehicle orders from LUT? As with any others of my photos on this site, if you’d like him to e-mail you a copy for your own records, our Editor has my permission to do so. We started queuing about an hour before the scheduled departure time in order to get on the first coach. A photo of a line up of some of LUT’s earlier 1936 TS7 batch with Metro-Cammell coachwork may be found here:- www.flickr.com/photos/gmts/16162288018. One did (no.27), but it was found that the Guy clutch didn’t like the 6LX torque, and the necessary modifications made the bus very difficult to drive. Oct 4, 2018 - This Pin was discovered by John Sumner. I was involved in a failed attempt to preserve DTF 269, the body of which was eventually lost to a fire. He subsequently purchased number 134, 6218 TF, the penultimate open rear platform model, later disposed of, current owner/location unknown. The only bit of dual carriageway in the early days was on the A1 south of Catterick. Prior to the precinct being built. Sections of this page. The LUT TS Tiger fleet was withdrawn during the 1950s, but three of the 1938 TS8s, CTF 434/5/8, originally fitted with Roe B32F coachwork, were refurbished in 1953 and equipped with full fronted Plaxton FC35F bodies. Book appointments on Facebook with Recycling Center in Swinton, Lancashire. The head office was moved to the former Lancashire United office at Bolton Bus Station, and the Horwich base was later closed down, with most buses moving to Bolton. The Summer 1951 timetable shows an 0830 departure from Haymarket and the arrival in Lymm would be 1616. My last trip from Lymm was in a Northern F registered Leopard with, I think, a Willowbrook bus body. Happy days. Facebook. History. It is seen here at Bowber Head, near Kirkby Stephen, just outside the Cumbria Classic Coaches Depot. His next change was to order PD3/4s and Daimler CSG6/30s as trolleybus replacements, the former with Orion, the latter with NCME bodies. Quick links to the  -  Comments Page  -  Contact Page  -  Home Page. You raise an interesting point, Roger, with your comments. Copyright on all Content and Photographs is held by the contributor unless stated otherwise     No reproduction allowed by any means without prior permission, All rights to the design and layout of this website are reserved     Old Bus Photos does not set or use Cookies but Google Analytics will set four see this, Old Bus Photos from Saturday 25th April 2009 to Friday 22nd January 2021, Lancashire United Transport – Leyland Tiger – CTF 425 – 116, Please leave a Comment or Send Information, Lancashire United Transport – Guy Arab III – MTJ 84 – 440. Shortlist. These appeared in a revised livery of all over red apart from a single cream band above the lower deck windows, as was soon to appear at MCTD, and with the Manchester style number, via and destination box layout. The batch illustrated by the example above gave LUT a rare distinction of operating Orion bodies on chassis from three of the then major manufacturers. A route to Blackpool from Oldham, via Manchester and Bolton No doubt these were robust and reliable vehicles but very soon after purchase they would be perceived by the travelling public as very old fashioned. Page 56, 746-60, Reliance/Willowbrook, slightly better moulded seats, no head restraint. Read more. Lancashire United Transport 1938 Leyland Tiger TS8 Roe DP30F ... 43 was one of three of this batch allocated to Swinton Depot in the early 70’s (of the batch of ten) I have always thought that LUT gave this body order to MCW as a means of keeping NCME’s prices keen, as LUT were making yearly purchases of Arabs. Press alt + / to open this menu. Home United Kingdom England Swinton Recycling Facility. Standards didn’t just go downhill, they fell over a cliff. We'd love to know how we can improve your job search. The Mexborough and Swinton Traction Company was the name adopted by the Mexborough & Swinton Tramways Company in 1929 following the introduction of trolleybuses on all its routes. I started life with another of the ‘glamour’ companies, Southdown, but even there I once took a service over mid-route and heard an old lady say ‘Oh good. (The Atkinsons technically belonged to South Lancashire Tramways.) Lancashire United Transport Co. Ltd. 1906 - 1981 8 Farnworth was purchased, bringing with it a route from Farnworth to Bury, and, in 1932, Lancashire United joined the Limited Stop Pool, which worked a service between Liverpool and Newcastle. The livery shown here is very bus-like, the original livery with "brightwork" was much more coach like. Views: 1,500 Item #: 28969 Taken at the Platt Bridge L.U.T. The LUT fleet was something of an oddity in that the indicator layout – in the days I paid any attention to the fleet – was similar to Manchester’s while the livery was more or less in the style of London Transport: red and cream then, when LT went to red and a grey stripe, so did LUT. country of origin: United Kingdom incorporation date: 2011.12.20 dissolution date: 2013.04.02 has UK … It is owned nowadays by Cumbria Classic Coaches, and is regularly used for private hire work especially weddings. The South Lancashire Tramways Company was authorised by the act to build over 62 miles (100 km) of track to serve the towns between St Helens (now in Merseyside), Swinton, Westhoughton and Hulton Lane where the Bolton Corporation system ended. Page 63, 852-871, Reliance/Willowbrook, 864 moulded seats, no head restraints 862 white detachable head restraints retro fitted. www.ipernity.com/doc/davidslater. Opo and Bus Grants spelled the end of the front engined bus and LUT ended its independent days buying the Daimler Fleetline. Terry Lawrenson collection. The 6LW Dennis Lolines of Aldershot & District gave a fleet average of 13.5 mpg, and could turn in almost 16 mpg on the long rural runs, but A&D maintenance was of a very high standard. I remember LUT single deckers running into Radcliffe Bus Station on the 25 service, I think it was. Find the travel options that best suit you. The next deliveries included Weymann DP Guys and Roe DPs on Atkinson Alpha chassis. It had very comfortable coach seating so a smooth journey was ensured. South Lancashire Tramways was a system of electric tramways in south Lancashire authorised by the South Lancashire Tramways Act of 1900. The Winter 1969/1970 timetable shows the departure at 0840 arriving 1618. We’ve got the cheerful one.’ which doesn’t say much for my colleagues of the time. Home Transport by country Transport in England History of transport in England Historic transport in Lancashire South Lancashire Tramways. The same gentleman brought preselect Daimlers into the fleet at the same time. I knew I shouldn’t have gone to that firm of opticians!!!!! Orions, the interior was equipped to a high standard. Foden bus. Jump to. We see it at Duxford on 29 September 1996. Someone claims to have LOVED the Seddon RU. This ran via Irlam and Eccles. The best examples by far were (again) the Aldershot & District examples which benefited from the lower build and the equal depth of the windows on both decks, and, unlike many (most?) With a nifty sidestep from buses to railways, Nick, I wonder if ‘First Great Western’ changed its name to ‘GWR’ because its poor reputation caused it to commonly be nicknamed ‘Worst Great Western!’. Photograph and Copy contributed by Roger Cox. They looked impressive but were basically 43 seat buses with detachable headrests on the seats. Discover (and save!) Open Now. Mexborough engine shed was an engine shed in Swinton, in South Yorkshire, England. There is a photo of one of the rebodied TS8s with a subsequent owner at www.flickr.com/photos/. Page 54, 720-39, Reliance/Weymann, slightly higher backed seats, no head restraint. Thanks for your comments, Mike. Later, when I became a Driver, I found them to be pretty much the same as all the other rear loading Guys, but by then, 43, 44 & 45 were on the part day only list, so were generally to be seen in Trafford Park on work services or peak hour duplicates, as their missing handrails proving unpopular at Swinton. 534 RTB is a Guy Arab IV from the Lancashire United fleet, once considered by many to be the biggest of the Independents. I always thought LUT was a ‘quality’ operation and although an independent had all the features of a big group company. The best way to get from Swinton Estate to Lake District costs only $24 and takes just 1¾ hours. Among my milder teenage dislikes were tin fronts, Orion bodies and (almost) all-over red liveries, but none of these three features detracts from the magnificence of this vehicle. The incorporation date is December 17, 2020. Is this habit only local or more general elsewhere? In between times, and thereafter, NCME continued to be favoured with orders for bodies and Guy predominated with Daimler later picking up some Fleetline orders which, had the Wulfrunian lived up to its billing, would not have been built. Tis second view being of a close-up of the LUT Crest. Chassis: Chassis No. They came … Is this the same vehicle that was parked up in a garden at Greenodd, near Ulverston, Cumbria for quite while in the 1980s? My in-laws, from Woking, always called A&D "All aboard and Riskit!" I can confirm the arduousness of the X97 in pre motorway days. One could be charitable, Chris, and blame the change on a nostalgic wish? 1905 Lancashire United Tramways Limited (LUT) is formed in order to acquire the SLT companies (29 December). Coming from Manchester Corporation where he had been Chief Engineer, he was to make a number of changes, the first of which to order 24 Daimler CVG5s which arrived in 1956 with 61 seat Orion bodies. In belated reply to Roger Cox, LUT’s Arabs did not have 6LX engines. Another example of a somewhat anachronistic purchase by a major operator. Guy was the staple manufacturer for double deckers but they also had some late model Arab coaches and single deck buses from Atkinson. MTJ 84 was originally Lancashire United 440. Do I read this correctly, Mike? Lancashire United Transport 1954 ... With regard to the Guy Arab IV’s and V’s of the fifties/sixties, a friend of mine drove these, working out of Swinton depot. Huge collection, amazing choice, 100+ million high quality, affordable RF and RM images. They were mostly Bristol REs with a few Seddons, some had Alexander bodywork with dual doors and all were in the red/grey colour scheme by that time (early 70s). Both these timetables, plus others from 1932 and 1972 including the vehicle/crew diagram for 1972, may be viewed on my Ipernity album covering the ‘Tyne-Tees-Mersey’ subject. By 1951 the underfloor engined single decker was becoming well established especially for coaches where being up to date with ‘fashion’ was more important than for buses. Hello Pete, Someone has not been keeping up with LUT and their Seddon RU,s! [1] The tram system was centred on the towns of Leigh and Atherton in South Lancashire, with lines running towards St Helens, Wigan, Bolton and Salford. LUT bucked the trend with its coach purchases. [2] The company changed its name in the same year to Lancashire United Transport and Power Company Ltd to reflect the widened range of business activities.[2]. 1956 I’m going to leave a rebuttal to Roger Cox’s evaluation of ‘Avashot and Riskit versus Thames Valley. Please give us your feedback. Photograph and Copy contributed by Don McKeown. I certainly (as a near 80-year-old) don’t recall smiles and banter as being the norm in those days. Comment by: Garry on 2nd February 2017 at 20:18 Foden bus with gardner 180 without turbo. As a follow-on the Peter D’s comments, Who vied with LUT as being considered the largest independent bus company at that time? had Northern Counties bodies. Similar vehicle CTF 423 is preserved in the care of the Aire Valley Transport group I was lucky enough to have a ride on it a few years ago It gave a very spirited performance and was a pleasure to sample. Withdrawn 1969 (542-545, 547-548, 550-551, 553, 562-563), 1970 (546, 549, 552, 554-561). Lancashire United Transport Bus Fleet List 1906-1981 Part 2: 1960-1981. This was quite a common event when the service car was filled with passengers for Newcastle. Finding that this has a MCCW body came as a bit of a surprise, too, because almost all the vehicles I’ve ever seen from their fleet (I know, someone’s going to correct me!) Ozymandias . So highly considered that if one became faulty, the union had an understanding with management that if no other RU was available, a maximum of one round trip only was worked before another RU was found. I wish I’d paid more attention in their day to a number of underfloor single-deckers that are now rarities. Body: Seating: 1960. The company status is Active. This should clarify the issue! By 1926, the bus fleet had reached the total of 100 operating over 21 routes. Three further TS8s from 1939 were also rebodied by Plaxton in the same way as CTF 434/5/8. 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